Nathan Zassman discusses Aviva Natural Health Solutions on CJOB: Talk to the Experts
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CJOB: Talk to the Experts
Greg Mackling: Good afternoon and welcome to "Talk to the Experts". I'm your host, Greg Mackling. And Nathan Zassman from Aviva, Everything for Healthy Living, Your Natural Health Superstore is with us in the studio today.
Nathan, I don't know how we pried you out of Aviva. You're always there. you're always working hard. Great to take some time with us here today, here on "Talk to the Experts". If you want to meet Nathan, if you've not had the pleasure, 1224 St. James Street.
That is a place where you can find some things on this planet that you will never see anywhere else and you've probably never seen before. It's not your average health food store in any sense of the word.
Nathan, great to have you on the program.
Nathan Zassman: Thank you, Greg. It's true. When I founded Aviva Natural Health Solutions, I really came up with what I call an integrated concept. We're not your normal vitamin or health food store, Greg. Although we do have Canada's largest selection of vitamins and supplements.
We believe in the importance of many, many things for your health including getting adequate rest and sleep. We have some amazing beds in our store.
Drinking plenty of pure water each day. We have tremendous designs in water filtration systems that are really popular these days. Of course, the importance of nutrition. We have health promoting footwear.
We have air purifiers which are especially, I think, important to discuss today a little bit. Haven't there been some kind of forest fires?
Greg: Absolutely, you're right.
Nathan: Yeah. So we have some air purifiers that are state-of-the-art for cleaning the air in your environment. We have a great selection of cookware.
We have a lot of products that are also, Greg, specifically for health concerns like back pain, back trouble, et cetera. We have lots of therapeutic products, too.
Greg: I remember we did a program last year. We tried to go through the store and try and find every part of the day somehow that you could look at things differently and products that are available at Aviva. We figured out we would need about four hours to do that program adequately. In every aspect of our lives there are things that we could change to make things just a little bit different.
You mentioned something when you walked in the door today and that was about risk mitigation, in terms of staying healthy. It's really kind of a risk mitigation process, isn't it?
Nathan: It's true. The natural approach to health is more about prevention than it is symptomatic relief. Your traditional medical approach is to treat the symptoms. The people that come to Aviva, they understand that we're about prevention.
If you do what we recommend, you will have a much lower risk of any of the age-related diseases that people are subject to. Again, my concept has always been if you can integrate healthy ideas into your lifestyle, it's easier to be healthy. You don't have to think about it.
Today I want to discuss an amazing scientist that I only recently learned about, Greg. I learned about him about maybe four months ago in one of the medical letters that I subscribe to. His name is Bruce Ames. He is a researcher at the University of California. In fact, he's Professor Emeritus there. I'm actually amazed I didn't know about this fellow because he's published over 540 papers. He's among the most cited scientist in all fields.
Greg: Well, Dr. Della here at the St. Barts hospital, he's in the 600 paper range. He is one of the top on the planet so I can back up what you're saying. At 550...
Nathan: That's a lot.
Greg: He's going to be in the top 10 on the planet, in all likelihood, for publication. Talk about nutrition deficiencies and the Triage Theory of Aging.
Nathan: That's actually the theory that Dr. Bruce Ames has presented. It's called the Triage Theory of Aging. What he has proven in this theory, Greg, is that we need about 40 essential micronutrients every day. He's identified what those nutrients are, I won't go over them here in this show.
We have a document that summarizes this particular theory that we give to anyone that comes to Aviva, at no charge. Because It's very interesting reading. Basically he's proven that taking inexpensive supplements can delay the degenerative diseases of aging, Greg, which include, of course, cancer, heart disease and dementia. I don't think anyone wants to get any of those.
Greg: No. I think you're right, 100 percent.
Nathan: So micronutrients include vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and amino acids. His Triage theory states that if you're missing even a single nutrient like folate or magnesium or zinc or B-12, nature has designed our incredible human body to ensure that we can survive today and reproduce.
If we're missing any of those nutrients, in order to survive today and reproduce, we will damage other parts of our body. That damage is what results in those age related diseases including cancer, heart disease and dementia. So, in other words, to survive today and reproduce, if we're missing nutrients we survive at the expense of our long-term health.
Greg: And our bodies are programmed. Sometimes we just need to give our bodies a kick-start to help us do what the body is naturally capable of doing, in terms of healing us and keeping us healthy.
There are also those genes that we carry with us, in terms of cancer and some other deadly diseases. That if we don't take care of those genes and we don't take care of our bodies, they're going to be triggered that much easier.
Nathan: This is what's really interesting about this. Ames' research has proven that we need these 40 essential nutrients each day. But if we're missing any single nutrient, the damage to our health, Greg, is the same--now listen to this--as radiation.
Nathan: While a perfectly balanced diet and sunshine--which of course we need for our Vitamin D--should optimize levels of all nutrients, few of us get all the nutrients we need. In fact, in Ames' research, he's found that over half the population is deficient in magnesium. Magnesium is an incredible mineral. I recommend it for so many health issues because so many people are deficient in it.
He's also found widespread deficiencies in zinc, in folate and iron. It's very, very common because of the way we refine our foods today. We just are missing these nutrients. You know, we talked the other day about telomeres. Remember that?
Nathan: At the end of our chromosomes we have what are called telomeres, which protect our genetic data. They hold some of the secrets of how we age and get cancer. Telomeres have been compared to the plastic tips, Greg, at the end of our shoelaces.
They prevent chromosome ends from fraying and sticking to each other which can scramble an organism's genetic information to cause cancer and other diseases of aging. Simply being deficient in one mineral, magnesium, may shorten your telomeres and increase the risk of your getting cancer or other age-related diseases.
But inexpensive supplements, Greg, can help and lead to preventive medicine for these age-related diseases we're discussing. You know, Greg, at Aviva we do our best to educate our customers on the importance of good nutrition and the supplements that we can give you that can help fill in these nutritional gaps.
Greg: Can I invite folks down to your store on your behalf, Nathan?
Nathan: It's funny you mentioned that. If you're wondering -- the people that are listening -- if you're wondering about the supplements you're currently taking, you can bring them in. One of our nutritional advisers will be happy to make recommendations which can often save you money and optimize your nutritional program. And make sure you're getting all the nutrients that Bruce Ames and his groundbreaking research has proven are important.
Greg: Nathan Zassman from Aviva, Your Natural Health Superstore, right here in Winnipeg, joins us on "Talk to the Experts". You can visit him at 1224 St. James Street. He and his wonderful staff will help you out in all sorts of different ways when it comes to health.
He's just offered you an opportunity to bring in whatever supplements you may be using now and compare some notes. Have a genuine conversation about if they're actually doing what you what them to do. Maybe more importantly what you need them to do.
Nathan: Yeah. We actually love analyzing the supplements that our customers bring in. In many cases they're very, very good products. If they are, we'll tell them.
Greg: I know from experience from being in your store, Nathan. You don't just carry one certain brand of product for different things. You have a variety of choice. I know that it's important to you that you not be married to one product line, specifically.
Greg: Why don't we take a break? When we come back, more of our conversation. We're talking about your health. What could be more important on this May long weekend? As you're soaking up what sun we may be getting this weekend and enjoying the May long weekend here in Manitoba. Our friends from Aviva Health are here, Everything for Healthy Living, Your Natural Health Superstore, right here in Winnipeg.
Greg: Welcome back to "Talk to the Experts". Greg Mackling along with Nathan Zassman from Aviva, your natural health superstore here in Winnipeg, at 1224 St. James Street. We've dragged Nathan out of the store here on a busy Saturday to have a conversation about health, living naturally, living healthy, and let's face it, Nathan... we don't get everything we need in our food. Our food had changed over the years, and one thing I know, I don't get a lot of, maybe don't get any of it, is something called K2. You introduced me to this about a year ago.
Nathan: Vitamin K2 is one of the vitamins that they seem be doing the most research on right now, because deficiencies in K2 are so common. In fact, only certain populations in Japan get enough of it. Generally speaking, K2 is not easily found in the diet, Greg. Most people know how important vitamin D is, and they know that vitamin D is important for absorbing calcium. Whether it's from your diet or from supplements, et cetera, you normally see vitamin D. They know now that deficiencies in vitamin D, Greg, are linked to up to 22 different forms of cancer, including colon cancer, cognitive problems, depression, even gum disease.
But K2 is an important co-factor with vitamin D, because if you're lacking in K2, and most of us are deficient in it, the calcium that we get from our diets and supplements, instead of going into our bones, goes into our blood vessels. Instead of helping to build our bones, the calcium is causing arterial calcification. Dr. Ames believes that these deficiencies which are common are related to the increased incidence of osteoporosis, arterial and kidney calcification, heart disease, and cancer. K2 is important.
Greg: So you know what? We're going take a break for sports. I want to ask you co-factors and this idea that even though you may be intaking and ingesting the proper foods, if you don't have the supplements and the other factors happening in your diet, you may not be getting the total benefit out of the things that you think you're doing right. Is that a fair statement?
Nathan: 100 percent.
Greg: Let's take a break. We'll expand upon that idea when we rejoin Nathan Zassman from Aviva, your natural health superstore here in Winnipeg, at 1224 St. James Street. We'll take a break. More of "Talk to the Experts" right after this.
Greg Mackling: Welcome back to "Talk to the Experts," Greg Mackling and we've dragged out of the store at 1224 St. James Street, Nathan Zassman from Aviva, Everything for Healthy Living, Your Natural Health Superstore.
If you've not been in the store, it is a beautiful facility, all sorts of products, everything from your feet to the top of your head, places to lay your head at night, just a wonderful facility and a wonderful store.
We're going to talk a little about air quality. It's going to be an issue for people who are in this pollen season. Nathan, you mentioned forest fires taking place in southeastern Manitoba. That smoke is going to be affecting us and our neighbors.
A huge proliferation of outdoor fire pits in the City of Winnipeg, perfectly legal but they can cause problems for some people. We'll talk about that later in the program.
I know people are firing up their air conditioning when it's 30 degrees. That means closed windows, re-circulating the air in the house. We'll get into that situation.
But I want to talk about this idea. You were mentioning co-factors and the idea that even though you may be doing a lot of the right things in terms of your diet, you may not be getting the full benefit out of, let's say, milk.
Nathan Zassman: I think I should maybe bring you over to my store. I think you picked up on this so well. I think in your part time you should come over and help us at Aviva.
It's funny. If you're eating food and your food is missing some of the key multi-vitamins like B vitamins, magnesium and so forth, many of the nutrients in food cannot be converted into energy.
As I was mentioning to you when we were off-air a moment ago, many people have trouble with sleep. Have trouble with stress. Have trouble with mood. The brain chemicals -- also called endorphins, like serotonin and melatonin and so forth -- Greg, you can't make these in your body if you're missing certain nutrients. You need vitamin B-3. You need magnesium. You need zinc. All of these are coenzymes or cofactors.
Greg: So, it's genuine chemistry.
Nathan: It's all related.
Greg: You can't have one without the other.
Nathan: That's right.
Nathan. Yeah. It's very important. In fact, talk about B vitamins. Bruce Ames in his research, he's found about 50 different human genetic diseases that can be remedied by feeding high doses of B vitamins, 50 human genetic diseases.
Greg: How is that possible?
Nathan: I know. And he's exploring the effect of high-dose B vitamins in delaying issues related to aging. As with so many vitamins and minerals, these micronutrients are co-factors or co-enzymes in the production of energy and are required for good health.
As Bruce Ames has proven, it is very difficult to obtain these nutrients from food. I strongly believe that everyone should be taking the supplements required to ensure that they're getting their 40 essential vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and amino acids that Ames has proven may reduce the risk of age-related diseases.
I'm telling you, when people get on these programs and they start taking these vitamins, they all feel so much better.
Greg: Yeah. I didn't want to get too new-age on anybody here. But when you're sleeping better, you have more energy. When your body is working the way it should, you're going to be feeling better.
Not only about yourself but you're going to be doing more things. In my way of thinking, once an object is in motion it tends to stay in motion.
Nathan: I've got to make a note of that. [laughs]
Greg: [laughs] Yeah. I read that on the Internet somewhere.
Nathan: Ah, very good. OK.
Greg: But the bottom-line is that the benefits...
Nathan: They're proven.
Greg: They're proven and they're exponential, right?
Greg: When they start working. One thing, we were talking... you know I like cars. Big thing for a lot of people is to put nitrogen in their tires instead of just straight air. It was funny that we were talking about that. Now you're going to tell me about nitric oxide. Laughing gas is nitrics oss...
Nathan: Nitrous oxide.
Greg: Nitrous oxide. So we're not talking about laughing gas.
Nathan: No, we're talking about nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is one of the other most important elements that I discuss with the people that come into my store. When I educate them about the importance of nitric oxide and they start to implement dietary and supplemental changes to boost nitric oxide levels. The differences in their health, you can't believe it. It's just amazing.
In 1998... what is that? 14 years ago...
Greg: Yeah. We'll go with 14.
Nathan: The Nobel Prize was awarded to the three scientists that identified the role of nitric oxide in human health. These scientists are really famous today because of this discovery.
What they determined was nitric oxide -- which is a gas and it's produced in the body through your diet -- it's a signaling molecule, Greg, that protects the heart. Stimulates the brain. Kills bacteria, so it helps with infectious diseases. Regulates blood pressure. Helps control blood flow to all of your organs. Helps prevent the formation of thrombi or thrombus which are blood clots that can cause a heart attack or stroke. In a nutshell, if we have higher levels of nitric oxide, our arteries expand with a tremendous increase in circulation.
I have one customer who's been a customer of mine for many, many years. He's 82 years old. He's very interested in what we do. When I learned about nitric oxide and read a book about it, I told him about it.
One of the great things about nitric oxide is you can test for it. We have a system where you can actually spit on a little strip and you look at the color.
Nathan: The color you match against a color chart and it tells you where your levels are.
Nathan: If your levels are low, you want to do something about it. With the recommendations we can make, Greg, we can raise them.
He was very interested. He tested with the strips and he found he was low. He asked me to put him on a program. I told him what types of foods he could eat that'd increase the nitric oxide levels in his body, the things that he could do, as well as some supplements.
Within about two months, he boosted his nitric oxide levels from the low levels to the normal levels. Not super-high but he's now in the normal range.
Nathan: He told me about a month ago. He said, "Nathan, I can't tell you, this is just amazing. I've had cold hands as long as I can remember," he tells me. And now his hands are warm.
Nathan: Yeah. It's quite something. Viagra and many similar drugs that are designed to treat erectile dysfunction, they work artificially with side-effects to dilate your blood vessels, to increase circulation.
Nathan: This does the same thing, naturally. I've had people come to me and confidentially say, "Nathan, this works better."
Nathan: People can come to our store. They can buy these strips. They can test themselves, Greg. They can see what the levels are. We can then help boost these levels.
Right along with understanding the importance of the vitamins and minerals and essential fatty acids and so forth that Bruce Ames has talked about, if we integrate that into your lifestyle and we teach you how to boost your nitric oxide levels, we can do tremendous things to improve your health.
Greg: We get your tidbits all throughout the day on Superstation, the Aviva spots. We've got Nathan Zassman here for an entire hour. We're closing in to the top of the hour.
We're going to get more conversation with Nathan from Aviva, Your Natural Health Superstore, right here in Winnipeg. It's at 1224 St. James Street.
How many people come into your store kicking and screaming they're being dragged by somebody?
Nathan: Once in a while, actually, there'll be... it's very interesting. We had a couple come in the other day. They were a lovely young couple. The woman is pregnant and she was looking for pre-natal vitamins. I'm talking to her and I'm teaching them about Bruce Ames' Triage Theory.
I said to her husband, "Are you taking vitamins?" He says, "No." [laughter] So, naturally I tried to encourage them that it's not something she should just be taking because she's pregnant and having a child. It's something they both should be taking for their health.
I will tell you that often, Greg, women seem to be much more pro-active and interested in this approach than men. Which is sad because what ends up happening so often is women live so much longer than men. Because they do take care of themselves better, perhaps.
If men don't do all these things, you don't get sick all of a sudden as Bruce Ames has proven. When you get sick, when you get cancer, heart disease, et cetera...These diseases that are diseases of aging are the result of long-term nutrient deficiencies.
Greg: Just because you find out about it on a Monday morning, doesn't mean it happened Sunday night.
Greg: We'll take a break. When we come back, more fascinating conversation with Nathan Zassman from Aviva, Everything For Healthy Living, right here in Winnipeg at 1224 St. James Street, Your Natural Health Superstore.
It's the Superstation CJOB 68 and you're listening to "Talk to the Experts."
Greg: Welcome back to "Talk to the Experts" right here on the super station. Nathan Zassman is here from Aviva, everything for healthy living and I mean everything. I've been to the store. You should head down there yourself and check it out. It's at 1224 St. James Street, a beautiful facility. Is that the corner Saskatchewan and...
Greg: ... St. James...
Greg: I'm going by memory, Nathan, I apologize. But it's up there in the North End, and there's that big fishing place.
Nathan: Warehouse Sports is across the street, there's a new Tim Horton's across the street too.
Greg: There you go. And there's a great big digital sign out front. You can't miss them. Aviva. I've come some see you for some Breville stuff, I am a big fan of them.
Nathan: Oh yeah? We have some Brevilles.
Greg: I know you do.
Nathan: They've got the best new coffee maker.
Greg: Oh yeah?
Nathan: It's called the "YouBrew". You've got to see it, it's unbelievable.
Greg: OK, well I'll come and check it out! I'm a big fan of the Breville stuff.
Greg: We were talking earlier about this idea about how if you have lots of energy and you're feeling well, you're exercising more, you're out, you're doing more, you're more active, you're more vital, right? Plain and simple, I think we can agree?
Nathan: Mm hmm.
Greg: You were mentioning the idea of the pregnant woman [laughter] who was in with her partner. She was there for her for her prenatal vitamins. But he's not taking anything. Hey, I have six year old twin boys.
Greg: You need a lot of energy to keep up with those guys, and so you need to take care of yourself. If for no other reason, so you can do something other than play with your kids. When they go to bed at 8:00 it shouldn't be your bedtime.
Nathan: Greg, you got to get a Vitamix blender for your house, because if you have a really high end Vitamix blender you can make so many healthy smoothies and drinks for your kids. They'll be healthy and they'll love it.
Greg: See? Aviva [laughs] it really is the natural health superstore. They've got everything in this place! But I want to talk to you about an endorsement, a letter that you shared with me here. It's this idea that, well there's so many people out there that are skeptical.
Nathan: Oh yeah.
Greg: Right? Because you're a "snake oil salesmen." I'm sure you all the derogatory comments on the planet. But here's how the letter ends: "I send you this letter at the risk of the blowing my reputation of a skeptic. Our family says I am the last person a placebo would work for. When Jerry comes up with his natural cures they say 'If it will work for Rhonda, we'll try it. In the meantime, we'll save our money.'"
Well, Rhonda Bellan wrote about a product that works for her. She suffers with arthritis. She had prescriptions for Tylenol 2s, 292s, even Oxy ... is it Oxycontin?
Nathan: I guess so, yeah.
Greg: A few weeks ago, her husband went into your store and came home with a bottle of collagen and a bottle of...
Greg: CurcuMIND. It's got vitamin D, as well. And you told him that it would help. Our friend Rhonda said, "Sorry, Nathan, but I did not believe it would work, or be any of great benefit. I followed your advice to please Jerry, and figured I would have to go back to Aleve when the natural remedy failed. I can't say my neck is cured, but I can tell you I have never had this kind of pain relief from any pharmaceutical. I can sleep, do more, and I have not taken any other pain reliever since that day. I also have peace of mind knowing I am not risking my health." What a strong endorsement from a self professed...
Greg: ... skeptic.
Nathan: [laughs] It's true. And we actually have many people who are skeptics, and it's fine to be skeptical. No natural product or drug will work for everyone, but I'll tell you one of the products that I use when I treat someone with arthritic issues...it's very interesting, I don't know if we have time to discuss this, but a customer called once from Montreal. He was buying a product, and he was buying it online on our website, Greg. He was buying 12 bottles of this, and he couldn't figure out on our website how to buy that many. So he called to order on the phone and I happened to get the call.
So I said, "So I'm curious why are you buying 12 bottles of this stuff? That's a year's supply!" He said, "Well, I never want to be without this product."
I said, "Well, tell me what is it doing for you."
He said, "Originally, somebody told me this was good for my dog. I have a dog that's 15 years old with severe arthritis, and someone told me if I gave my dog this product, it would help."
"So after three weeks my dog was running around like a young dog again. It totally cured my dog. So," he said, "I have this terrible issue," with arthritis in his neck. He's had it for 20 years.
He said, "If it's going to work for my dog, I'm going to try it." So he started using this product, and within three weeks, he was cured.
So I call the company I get this from and I said, "I just heard this very interesting testimonial from this fellow [laughter] who's found that it helps not only his dog but himself. Do you hear this often?"
They said to me, "This is what we hear 90 percent of the time. It doesn't work all the time, but at least 90 percent of the time, we hear this."
I combined this with another supplement we have that also has tremendous research both for cognitive issues and inflammation. My results with these two products combined has been spectacular as you see with this testimonial.
Now, we're also selling the same supplement to trainers at Assiniboia Downs for many of the horses and other animals, because it does work really well for them, too.
Greg: We'll take a break, and we mentioned the fact that allergy season is here. It's unavoidable for many people, and also mosquito season is here potentially. We're hoping that we have a summer like last year, but just in case we don't, Nathan has a solution (surprise, surprise!) for that as well. Nathan Zassman from Aviva is here in the house, and Aviva is at 1224 St. James Street, your natural health superstore here in Winnipeg.
We'll take a break. More conversation, right here on "Talk to the Experts" on the super station.
Greg: Welcome back to "Talk to the Experts". Our final segment I can't believe how time flies when we have Nathan Zassman from Aviva, everything for healthy living, right here in Winnipeg at 1224 St. James Street, your Natural Health superstore. It really is a superstore.
Nathan, Taz Stuart has not been as busy in the last year or so, in terms of the media, because mosquitoes just weren't a factor last summer. But let's pretend for a moment they become a factor this year, as we enter the May long weekend. How can you help me?
Nathan: We'll we have a product called the Bugcatcher, and actually Greg, we've been selling this for I think about four years now. It's an amazing product. I think it's the best bug catching product for mosquitoes ever made. It's actually made in Australia. It uses a special light that attracts not just mosquitoes, but all sorts of bugs.
It's an interesting design. You put some water in the bottom with a little detergent. Once the bugs are attracted to the light, there's a fan which sucks them in, and they go into the water. Because of the detergent, there is no surface tension and they drown.
Then, every morning, you just pull out this tray of water, and it's filled with bugs It's unbelievable! It works extremely well. It works for a kilometer, I think, in front of it. A lot of people buy this when they live in the country or whatever. It really does cover a large area for getting bugs for catching bugs.
Greg: Never mind the Breville stuff. I'm coming to see you about the Bugcatcher.
Greg: Now, we're not going to avoid allergies, those...
Nathan: Before we do that, I want to mention something else. We also have a lot of natural bug sprays and repellants that people want that don't have all the bad chemicals. We have a new natural soap that is called "Grandma's Don't Bug Me Bar." This is a product that you actually can wash with. I guess it must have some kind of essential oil or something in it. It stays on your skin and it prevents the mosquitoes from biting you after you wash with it.
Apparently, if it wears off, you are just going to lather a little bit of it on your skin, and it continues to work. It's an interesting product. We are just getting it from the United States. They have many other products. They have one that's for poison ivy, and one for eczema and psoriasis. They are a very interesting company in the United States called Grandma's.
Greg: OK, Bob, my boys might like that for baseball. Now, allergies...
Nathan: Allergies has always been a big thing with us and we have a great selection of products for allergies, Greg. One of the best products we have is something called Petadolex, which is derived from an herb called butterbur. It's extremely effective. In fact, it's so effective that in one study, they compared it to one of the more popular allergy drugs, antihistamine drugs. It worked extremely well just as well as the drug did but without any side effects, no drowsiness, etc.
One side benefit of this, which could be important to some people, is that not only have clinical studies have proven it's good for hay fever and allergies or allergic rhinitis, if you want the technical term it's also proven to lower the incidence of migraine headaches for migraine sufferers. It's a very good product.
We have that. We have other products including Quercetin, Immunocare, Black Cumin Seed Oil. All of these products can be very effective for minimizing the effects of allergies, and reducing histamine production, which is what basically causes the allergy symptoms.
Greg: Nathan, thank you very much for your time today. It's all the time we have on "Talk to the Experts." If you would like to see Nathan and his crew down at 1224 St. James Street, when are you open?
Nathan: We are open from ten 'til six, Monday through Saturday, and from twelve to five on Sunday. We are thinking about maybe expanding our hours a little later on Thursdays or Fridays, but we haven't made that decisions yet. Right now, it's ten to six, Monday through Saturday, and twelve to five on Sundays.
Greg: 24 hours a day at avivahealth.com.
Nathan: That's right!
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